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Horse pulling recession!
    I bet the high dollar horse doesn't bring 10000.00 at the fall sales. These high dollar horses are a thing of the past. People are refusing to pay it and the price will come down. People then will start to get back into pulling. The same type of horse pulled at a sale 10 years ago cost 1900.00 is a no sale at 5700.00 now days. Those days are gone people are pulling to have fun now days and are making a lot of contests with the same team. When big money comes to town no one really cares they actually feel bad for them if they spend all that money and they don't win.

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Henry
Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 02:42 PM
How much do you want to bet?

Nathan
Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 02:43 PM
There will be babies that will bring 10 grand I'd say a bad bet

100k
Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 04:42 PM
When fuel was 4.50gal the attendance wasn't this bad. The high dollar teams only pull a handfull of times a year. I see friends that always promote each other's stock to be high but not many dream chasers anymore to sell to weinberger or to Yoder and hatfield. Chris will get what he wants now that weinburger is retiring. The other 99.9 percent of horses are cull. I agree cheaper times are here let's enjoy the ride.

Gary
Sunday, August 12, 2018 at 01:37 PM
The problem is it a generational sport, as an elderly gentleman puller passes away, the next generation is not continuing. Most people younger than 50 never/or seldom used live stock on the farm.

100k
Sunday, August 12, 2018 at 04:54 PM
On Sunday, August 12, 2018 at 01:37 PM Gary wrote:
The problem is it a generational sport, as an elderly gentleman puller passes away, the next generation is not continuing. Most people younger than 50 never/or seldom used live stock on the farm.

The younger kids see the older generations work a team up to the last load and when they get closer to winning big money pulls three different teams pulling 10 times or barely more a year but makes all the big pulls while being fresh. Then instead of pulling they keep the phones hot running the price of horses high. Now the under 50 spend their money boating vacations and time with their families the older pullers didn't spend with them. Like anything else the next generation always gets wiser! Also the 50 and older doesn't pay one or two dollars difference in feed in the last 20years and fed those 1900.00 sale pulled horses what makes them so high now?

Horsepuller23
Sunday, August 12, 2018 at 08:56 PM
One thing making the average farm horse higher is the colts going to the killers. They signed a new 5 year contract on the colts. This makes the average farm horses high and the pullers even higher.

100k
Monday, August 13, 2018 at 06:48 AM
On Sunday, August 12, 2018 at 08:56 PM Horsepuller23 wrote:
One thing making the average farm horse higher is the colts going to the killers. They signed a new 5 year contract on the colts. This makes the average farm horses high and the pullers even higher.

Canada is the top killer buyers but they never give over .60c a pound and if a horse weighs 3000lbx.60=1800.00 dollars. I know there ruthless towards horses but this has been going on for years. I don't see how this makes any difference am I missing something?

Horsepuller23
Monday, August 13, 2018 at 07:40 AM
I’m talking about colts. Not horses. They are buying all the colts for big money. This makes for a shortage in horses when they are buying over half the colts. It makes a big difference when 3 years later a big chunk of 3 year olds are gone.

100k
Monday, August 13, 2018 at 07:59 AM
I would like to know what the price per pound is for a colt to the killer is. I'm not a fan of the killer market but I wouldn't say it's no more than a dollar a pound. Why would a killer by a draft colt at 500lb at the same price as two or three 1400lb angus feeders? There's something else going on everyone prefers beef over horse on the grill!

Nathan
Monday, August 13, 2018 at 09:53 AM
4 dollars

100k
Monday, August 13, 2018 at 10:15 AM
[q]On Monday, August 13, 2018 at 09:53 AM Nathan wrote:
4 dollars[/q It's the bottom of the line meat. Look at the Topeka sale almost all the high horses were bought by pullers the rest were Amish with a couple people just wanting a draft. Hardly anything if any bought by killer that was sound! Killers don't pay 3000.00 for anything period and guaranteed not a 500lb colt am I wrong? Also if killer buys a 500lb colt they have to give 6.00 a pound to pay 3000.00 I'm thinking that is far fetched meaning they haven't even fed the horse up yet! Most of the horses are sold to buddies and pullers and Amish that breed use and go around and sell and buy from other Amish like a tractor dealership that work together to keep killer buyer price as a selling point. That's just a far fetched guess then everyone wants to sell the next puller high to big money!

bill
Monday, August 13, 2018 at 10:42 AM
Last fall in Topeka killers bought at least 200 colts for around 2500. I was there. Horsepuller23. Is right on makes me sick to see it.

100k
Monday, August 13, 2018 at 11:01 AM
I can't understand it we are in trouble as a equine driven group if we are loosing healthy equine to this. I can understand killers but healthy stock is another. I got to get to work or I'm going to get fired need to get my mind on something else this is depressing!

Horsepuller23
Monday, August 13, 2018 at 12:44 PM
These aren’t the kill buyers that buy the old horses. They buy weanlings and yearlings and feed them up to 2,000lbs by the time they are 2. Go to Mt Hope sale. At least 75% will go to the kill buyers.

100k
Monday, August 13, 2018 at 09:12 PM
The average cost in march was 5490.00 the Calgary airport in Canada was the main shipping yard from Canada to Japan. Although Canada passed a law against shipping draft they just butcher them there now and sneak the colts through. On the 26hr flight. Canada makes millions off North America horses!



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