Who do you think is a top driver or teamster?
    

I enjoy watching James Humphrey operate

I also admire the way Wendell Armes, Dan Reed, Doug Smith and Scott Brown handle a team of horses

Keith Beasley is a very good driver.

I think John Stover,Keith Allender, or Jeff Schlarb has got them all beat.and don't forget Terry Smith by no means.

Terry Smith is one of the very best with a pair of horses that i have ever seen.

i would have to say jerald keegan has to be one of the top he tuff to beat anywere he goes and sells some nice horses out in the country

terry smith the keegan brothers boomer clark and donnie middough can drive any thing with 4 legs and a tail

3 drivers come to mind they can drive 27 1/2' or 5 minute and short as well. Doug Smith, Ben Reed & Dan Reed

Skippy Smart here in New England is an excellent teamster.

out on the east coast junior blandchard ,be it with horses or ponies, 6 foot the best class, and with not fancy/dan over priced horses.

On Sunday, March 1, 2009 at 05:00 PM Bob wrote:
OMG, You have got to be kidding me.

IN MANY CASES GOOD HORSES MAKE GOOD TEAMSTERS.

On Sunday, March 1, 2009 at 05:10 PM arnold wrote:

On Sunday, March 1, 2009 at 05:00 PM Bob wrote:
OMG, You have got to be kidding me.

IN MANY CASES GOOD HORSES MAKE GOOD TEAMSTERS.

Best teamster topic a real good one, Its like asking a mother or father to pick who their best child is,They are all good, We owe the pullers and owners big time for entertaining us over the years,so hats off to anyone who has owned or competed in the sport,They are ALL, like my offspring the BEST.And 3 cheers to Bill for giving us this opportunity to express ourselves,

On Sunday, March 1, 2009 at 08:04 AM arnold wrote:
out on the east coast junior blandchard ,be it with horses or ponies, 6 foot the best class, and with not fancy/dan over priced horses.

HOW DO YOU JUDGE A GOOD TEAMSTER?

On Sunday, March 1, 2009 at 07:13 PM horspuller57 wrote:

On Sunday, March 1, 2009 at 08:04 AM arnold wrote:
out on the east coast junior blandchard ,be it with horses or ponies, 6 foot the best class, and with not fancy/dan over priced horses.

HOW DO YOU JUDGE A GOOD TEAMSTER?

I would judge a teamster on how he handles himself, his appearance and teams appearance, How he treats and bonds to his horses,The way his horses act in the ring is a plus to him, How long he can keep the same team pulling,(Barring any illnesses), and doing the best he can with what he has to work with. How he places does not play a big factor ,These are a few credentials I feel constitutes a good Teamster. but being 76 years old, I probably forgot a few credentials.

Best Teamster Topic, Come on all you New Englanders,I know the Ground Hog said 6 more weeks of winter but you have to come out the Sky isn,t falling. Lets hear from you,The Western Boys are beating on you,They love to show their support for their favorites you can.t just stand for that, Ct,Vt,your lacking in supporting your Favorites. Oh,I just got it,Maybe you just don,t have any good Teamsters.

on the east coast Dan Reed is one off the best he is a real teamster he also won in the west

On Sunday, March 1, 2009 at 10:02 PM horspuller57 wrote:
on the east coast Dan Reed is one off the best he is a real teamster he also won in the west

i agree one of the best,and a gentleman, if they ever had a teamsters hall of fame he would be there.

I agree with Josh Phillip Burton is an exellent driver and an all around good guy.

I think Chris Hatfield has to be one of the best drivers. No matter if he pulls in Michigan, Florida, Kentucky, New York or where ever the pull may be he always seems to excel above the rest. Sure, he does have great horses to work with, but it takes a lot of time and hard work to be as successful as he is. I don't believe that it has anything to do with the price of a horse, it has a lot to do with the driver and his dedication that makes the team a success.

Chris may not be where he is today if not for the help and support of Monte Carpenter when he was getting started. I think Monte is an outstanding horseman.

Ben Reed buys colts raises them breaks them and pulls them from michigan to maine 6 foot to 5 minutes and won to be the best you should pull more than just 27 1/2'

On Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 10:07 PM ROD wrote:
I think Chris Hatfield has to be one of the best drivers. No matter if he pulls in Michigan, Florida, Kentucky, New York or where ever the pull may be he always seems to excel above the rest. Sure, he does have great horses to work with, but it takes a lot of time and hard work to be as successful as he is. I don't believe that it has anything to do with the price of a horse, it has a lot to do with the driver and his dedication that makes the team a success.

I couldn't disagree more that the price of a horse has nothing to do with how successful a driver is. A good pair of horses can make just about anyone look good. Those who can win with a bad pair of horses are few and far between. I do agree that hard work and dedication makes a difference but from what I see at the fairgrounds Chris surrounds himself with a small army of people that do most of the work in getting the horses ready to compete.

On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at 08:04 PM mtndew wrote:

On Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 10:07 PM ROD wrote:
I think Chris Hatfield has to be one of the best drivers. No matter if he pulls in Michigan, Florida, Kentucky, New York or where ever the pull may be he always seems to excel above the rest. Sure, he does have great horses to work with, but it takes a lot of time and hard work to be as successful as he is. I don't believe that it has anything to do with the price of a horse, it has a lot to do with the driver and his dedication that makes the team a success.

I couldn't disagree more that the price of a horse has nothing to do with how successful a driver is. A good pair of horses can make just about anyone look good. Those who can win with a bad pair of horses are few and far between. I do agree that hard work and dedication makes a difference but from what I see at the fairgrounds Chris surrounds himself with a small army of people that do most of the work in getting the horses ready to compete.

Give me the good Old New England teamster that knows how to drive a team, Not having the reins handed to him on a machine pull and Slam Bang Here we go.Some do it right but for the most part a lot of them don,t.

I had good teachers in Michigan to watch from, and i always figured if they were winning they were doing something right. My dad was very strict on us, from brushing to harnessing to working them. When i went out East Whitey Smith Sr. took me under his wings to help me, I realized he was alot like my dad for horse care, His boys Whitey,Lou and Bobby helped me alot . For 5 minute pulling Danny Smith and Randy Northrup were great help with the clock work. It takes good help and horses to make the driver look good.And i have seen top winning horses get sold and never win again because the teamster was not very good.

Pete Brown from NE was always a top operator and a very good horsemen.

Six foot pulling separates the good drivers.Fred Cook, Raymond Smart, Benji Lockerby, Pete Brown, Dave Mitchell, to name a few of the old timers from the east. Bring some 6 foot pulling back, not boring!!!!!:

I'm not cutting down the east pullers any but pulling 6 foot doesn't make a good driver. 5 min. pulling makes a good driver and a teamster to make a team keep pulling for that long. Pulling 27 and half feet to make a full pull takes alot also. you can talk all you want bout your 6 foot pulling. but come west or south and tangle with chris. I don't see how you guys keep cutting chris down in many post on here he must know what he is doin sure hes got good horses, but he spends all day with them and to me he is the best driver and teamster out there.

On Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 08:54 AM Bob wrote:
I agree with MTNDEW. Give Chris the same budget as Ben and others have and then send him out across the country and see if he gets the same results....

On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at 08:04 PM mtndew wrote:

On Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 10:07 PM ROD wrote:
I think Chris Hatfield has to be one of the best drivers. No matter if he pulls in Michigan, Florida, Kentucky, New York or where ever the pull may be he always seems to excel above the rest. Sure, he does have great horses to work with, but it takes a lot of time and hard work to be as successful as he is. I don't believe that it has anything to do with the price of a horse, it has a lot to do with the driver and his dedication that makes the team a success.

I couldn't disagree more that the price of a horse has nothing to do with how successful a driver is. A good pair of horses can make just about anyone look good. Those who can win with a bad pair of horses are few and far between. I do agree that hard work and dedication makes a difference but from what I see at the fairgrounds Chris surrounds himself with a small army of people that do most of the work in getting the horses ready to compete.

Chris hasn't always had the best teams either & still won! Chris is from a family of great horseman...Chris's grandfather was one of the best there was and along the way Chris has came across many GREAT pullers and watched and learned. Yes, NOW Chris does have a great Team. But, all the money and great horses don't make him a great horseman...The knowledge he hold does...

I'D BET IF CHRIS WAS PULLING THE QUALITY OF HORSES I CAN AFFORD, YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER HEARD OF HIM.

On Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM Bob wrote:
I would never argue that Chris is not a good Horseman but he's far from the BEST...

On Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 09:30 AM Tanya wrote:

On Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 08:54 AM Bob wrote:
I agree with MTNDEW. Give Chris the same budget as Ben and others have and then send him out across the country and see if he gets the same results....

On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at 08:04 PM mtndew wrote:

On Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 10:07 PM ROD wrote:
I think Chris Hatfield has to be one of the best drivers. No matter if he pulls in Michigan, Florida, Kentucky, New York or where ever the pull may be he always seems to excel above the rest. Sure, he does have great horses to work with, but it takes a lot of time and hard work to be as successful as he is. I don't believe that it has anything to do with the price of a horse, it has a lot to do with the driver and his dedication that makes the team a success.

I couldn't disagree more that the price of a horse has nothing to do with how successful a driver is. A good pair of horses can make just about anyone look good. Those who can win with a bad pair of horses are few and far between. I do agree that hard work and dedication makes a difference but from what I see at the fairgrounds Chris surrounds himself with a small army of people that do most of the work in getting the horses ready to compete.

Chris hasn't always had the best teams either & still won! Chris is from a family of great horseman...Chris's grandfather was one of the best there was and along the way Chris has came across many GREAT pullers and watched and learned. Yes, NOW Chris does have a great Team. But, all the money and great horses don't make him a great horseman...The knowledge he hold does...

That's true also. But, really is there a best horseman?? We all are great horseman in our own way. (Just ask us---haha)

I do have respect for Chris Hatfield's talents as a teamster. I was just trying to point out that winning is much easier when you are provided the best horses, have several people around to help and your occupation is to get horses ready to compete. My guess is that we all know several pullers who would fare very well given the same advantages.

On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at 10:36 PM Snowman wrote:
I'm not cutting down the east pullers any but pulling 6 foot doesn't make a good driver. 5 min. pulling makes a good driver and a teamster to make a team keep pulling for that long. Pulling 27 and half feet to make a full pull takes alot also. you can talk all you want bout your 6 foot pulling. but come west or south and tangle with chris. I don't see how you guys keep cutting chris down in many post on here he must know what he is doin sure hes got good horses, but he spends all day with them and to me he is the best driver and teamster out there.

I believe I have witnessed just about every style of pulling offered here in the States over my many years of attending horsepulls. One thing I know is that you need a great deal of skill to compete in all the different styles of pulling. Anyone who thinks it doesn't take a skilled driver to compete in 6 foot pulls has either never witnessed one or is clueless. When you hook to the very large loads that come with pulling 6 foot there is a great deal of strategy and execution needed to cross those loads. Over the years I've seen quite a few really good teams and teamsters come in from out west and attempt to compete in a 6 foot class. On many occasions the teamster did not know enough to cut the boat when the load got heavy or was not skilled enough. So they hook their team and hit the load hard just to have them come back at him just as hard and end up with 10 inches for a distance and a discouraged team of horses. I have also witnessed countless numbers of good horses ruined because teamsters who spent their whole lives competing in 6 foot classes never figured it out. They'd pound their horses straight ahead on big loads and leave them without any will to pull.

On Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 03:44 PM mtndew wrote:

On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at 10:36 PM Snowman wrote:
I'm not cutting down the east pullers any but pulling 6 foot doesn't make a good driver. 5 min. pulling makes a good driver and a teamster to make a team keep pulling for that long. Pulling 27 and half feet to make a full pull takes alot also. you can talk all you want bout your 6 foot pulling. but come west or south and tangle with chris. I don't see how you guys keep cutting chris down in many post on here he must know what he is doin sure hes got good horses, but he spends all day with them and to me he is the best driver and teamster out there.

I believe I have witnessed just about every style of pulling offered here in the States over my many years of attending horsepulls. One thing I know is that you need a great deal of skill to compete in all the different styles of pulling. Anyone who thinks it doesn't take a skilled driver to compete in 6 foot pulls has either never witnessed one or is clueless. When you hook to the very large loads that come with pulling 6 foot there is a great deal of strategy and execution needed to cross those loads. Over the years I've seen quite a few really good teams and teamsters come in from out west and attempt to compete in a 6 foot class. On many occasions the teamster not knowing enough to cut the boat when the load got heavy or not skilled enough hooked his team just to have them come back at him and end up with 10 inches for a distance and a discouraged team of horses.

Harry Beaman Bobby Steal and Max were the best of the best on 27 1/2 feet but when they went east they found some one from the east to drive thier horses does that say anyting about short pulling go out hitch on 20.000 see what happens with out knowing what your doing see what you bring home

I'm not taking up for him, and I don't know who you are but, this be the case he would beat you more than you beat him!!!

On Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM TW wrote:
I'D BET IF CHRIS WAS PULLING THE QUALITY OF HORSES I CAN AFFORD, YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER HEARD OF HIM.

I would like to see Chris's dad drive .

you're right horespull 57 ,i think what you are saying is it's all about the horses. what pulls i have pulled over my short lived career as a so called horsepuller, i tried to pick bigger pulls, and i would say i had to pull against chris at all of them , and unless you were on that next to last load with youre horses pulling as well as you thought they could,and then you witnessed chris cross that same load,when his horses had to bear down an give extra when it counted, then you wouldn't realize it is all about the talent of the animal.i think it is fair to say the terry yoder and chris hatfield did show all of us, what a pair of horses can achieve, if you were willing to give it your all. not many of us can give it all to be on top for reasons of family, business of whatever.

On Saturday, March 7, 2009 at 06:58 PM TW wrote:
you're right horespull 57 ,i think what you are saying is it's all about the horses. what pulls i have pulled over my short lived career as a so called horsepuller, i tried to pick bigger pulls, and i would say i had to pull against chris at all of them , and unless you were on that next to last load with youre horses pulling as well as you thought they could,and then you witnessed chris cross that same load,when his horses had to bear down an give extra when it counted, then you wouldn't realize it is all about the talent of the animal.i think it is fair to say the terry yoder and chris hatfield did show all of us, what a pair of horses can achieve, if you were willing to give it your all. not many of us can give it all to be on top for reasons of family, business of whatever.

give it your all means 2 years salery per horse for most people

I wish we could start a Hall Of Fame for these great teamsters we have had over the years on both the East Coast and out West. Maybe it could set it up where it takes X-# votes to get enshrined.

On Monday, March 9, 2009 at 06:37 AM Bob wrote:
I wish we could start a Hall Of Fame for these great teamsters we have had over the years on both the East Coast and out West. Maybe it could set it up where it takes X-# votes to get enshrined.

Michigan and Wisconsin already have halls of fame.

My first East Coast ballot vote would be for ( Fred Cook ) I believe when it came to Pulling horses it will be a long time before anyone puts up the blue ribbons he has over his course of 40+ years of touring the country.. He was a genius with a pair of lines. When the pulls were over he was the life of the party that night as well.

Great Indiana choice.. I agree.

I will make a choice for each State. Maine Norman Decker , New Hampshire Raymond Smart , Vermont Fred Cook , Massachusetts Dan Reed , RHode Island Hollis Tucker , Connecticut Charles Wimler , New York Harold Montgomery , Indiana Dale Benham , Michigan Harry Beeman , Kentucky Bobby Steele , Ohio?

Not a bad lineup of drivers.

On Monday, March 9, 2009 at 05:31 PM Bob wrote:
I will make a choice for each State. Maine Norman Decker , New Hampshire Raymond Smart , Vermont Fred Cook , Massachusetts Dan Reed , RHode Island Hollis Tucker , Connecticut Charles Wimler , New York Harold Montgomery , Indiana Dale Benham , Michigan Harry Beeman , Kentucky Bobby Steele , Ohio?

Not a bad lineup of drivers.

Great Choices. How about Roy Arnold for Ohio, and Harold Gilbert for Missouri. Wendell Armes is also a strong canidate for Kentucky

Super choices..

On Monday, March 9, 2009 at 05:31 PM Bob wrote:
I will make a choice for each State. Maine Norman Decker , New Hampshire Raymond Smart , Vermont Fred Cook , Massachusetts Dan Reed , RHode Island Hollis Tucker , Connecticut Charles Wimler , New York Harold Montgomery , Indiana Dale Benham , Michigan Harry Beeman , Kentucky Bobby Steele , Ohio?

Not a bad lineup of drivers.

what about Ohio George Espee Sr new Hampshire George Edwards and for 6' Arther Durgin

On Monday, March 9, 2009 at 05:31 PM Bob wrote:
I will make a choice for each State. Maine Norman Decker , New Hampshire Raymond Smart , Vermont Fred Cook , Massachusetts Dan Reed , RHode Island Hollis Tucker , Connecticut Charles Wimler , New York Harold Montgomery , Indiana Dale Benham , Michigan Harry Beeman , Kentucky Bobby Steele , Ohio?

Not a bad lineup of drivers.

This is a great lineup of driver.

Doug Smith is a great teamster, I don't think he's ready for the HOF yet.

On Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 08:59 AM Josh wrote:
What about David Cox from Illinois, David Owen from Mississippi, Wendell Armes from Kentucky, John Stover from Ohio, Tom Humbert from Indiana, Billy Keegan from Michigan, Doug Smith from New York, Jeff Dubois from Maine and what about Canada?

jeff who?? what about stevie smith from maine

On Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 08:59 AM Josh wrote:
What about David Cox from Illinois, David Owen from Mississippi, Wendell Armes from Kentucky, John Stover from Ohio, Tom Humbert from Indiana, Billy Keegan from Michigan, Doug Smith from New York, Jeff Dubois from Maine and what about Canada?

On Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 05:39 PM Peter wrote:
jeff who?? what about stevie smith from maine

On Tuesday, March 10, 2009 at 08:59 AM Josh wrote:
What about David Cox from Illinois, David Owen from Mississippi, Wendell Armes from Kentucky, John Stover from Ohio, Tom Humbert from Indiana, Billy Keegan from Michigan, Doug Smith from New York, Jeff Dubois from Maine and what about Canada?

Billy Keegan Doug Smith Jeff Dubois Steve Smith may be good teamsters in their own right but they have a ways to go to be in the same class as a Fred Cook a Dale Benham or a Wendall Armes

To pay respect to our Canadian Drivers I would like to tell you something that most of the drivers/owners mentioned in the previous posts have told me ...They enjoyed our hospitality, weather, style of pulling and winning.......but in no way in hell would they like to do it 3 or 4 times a week...I love the idea of a Hall of Fame even if it is only online. To remember those that got us here is to remember where we are going..(A Canadian said that)...

A gift that all of the above mentioned teamsters have or had is the ability of fitting a collar/hames/harness...which in my opionon will be a lost art that will disappear way to soon......

I DO NOT KNOW WHO FRED COOK IS,I HAVE ONLY SEEN PHOTOS OF HIM DRIVING HIS TEAMS ON THIS WEB SITE AND OTHER PHOTOS IN VARIOUS OTHER PLACES THERE IS ONE PARTICULAR PICTURE OF HIM SITTING ON A SLED OF SOME SORT,WITH A HUGE MOUND OF LOGS BEHIND HIM,HIS TEAM PULLING AS HARD AS THERY CAN. THIS PICTURE IS ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE,IS THIS HOW HORSEPULLS WERE DONE IN THE EAST,BY PULLING LOADS OF LOGS.

On Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 08:22 AM TW wrote:
I DO NOT KNOW WHO FRED COOK IS,I HAVE ONLY SEEN PHOTOS OF HIM DRIVING HIS TEAMS ON THIS WEB SITE AND OTHER PHOTOS IN VARIOUS OTHER PLACES THERE IS ONE PARTICULAR PICTURE OF HIM SITTING ON A SLED OF SOME SORT,WITH A HUGE MOUND OF LOGS BEHIND HIM,HIS TEAM PULLING AS HARD AS THERY CAN. THIS PICTURE IS ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE,IS THIS HOW HORSEPULLS WERE DONE IN THE EAST,BY PULLING LOADS OF LOGS.

The pull Fred Cook was at was in VT they held it once a year it was on a sled with 2 runners similar to the ones used to log with. Fred Cook is a legion in horse pulling from NY to Me from 5 min in ME to 27'6" in NY. thier was a time when a lot of men came from out west just to try to beat Fred Cook. not saying they did not beat him but he won his share.

Max Ledyard and Bruce-Jack Fowler were top in Michigan

once up on a time DALEtold me any one could drive a good horse in no one could drive one that did not want to pullnow when you pull againest the like of DALE MAX BIG HARRY LARRY REED JIM HEINSHAW FRAINCES RUTH I COULD GO ON IN ON WITH TOP NOTCH PULLERS OLD BILLY KEAGAN JEFF SCHLARB HUBERT POTTOS BEN RUSSELBURG IN ALL OF THE OLD ONES THEY ALL WERE THE GREATES in the country in i love every mintue of it ask some of them if you dont think i am right CHARLIE HARLEY

I agree 100% Charlie

charlie how about Charlie Fisher Paul Davis

On Tuesday, April 14, 2009 at 10:12 PM Josh wrote:
Who on earth is Charlie Fisher Paul Davis?

Both were from Indiana. In fact, Paul Davis got my dad involved in horsepulling back in the late 50's. Paul's son Dwight still pulls. Charlie Fisher's son and grandson pull horses in Michigan.

On Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 09:30 AM Tanya wrote:

On Thursday, March 5, 2009 at 08:54 AM Bob wrote:
I agree with MTNDEW. Give Chris the same budget as Ben and others have and then send him out across the country and see if he gets the same results....

On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at 08:04 PM mtndew wrote:

On Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 10:07 PM ROD wrote:
I think Chris Hatfield has to be one of the best drivers. No matter if he pulls in Michigan, Florida, Kentucky, New York or where ever the pull may be he always seems to excel above the rest. Sure, he does have great horses to work with, but it takes a lot of time and hard work to be as successful as he is. I don't believe that it has anything to do with the price of a horse, it has a lot to do with the driver and his dedication that makes the team a success.

I couldn't disagree more that the price of a horse has nothing to do with how successful a driver is. A good pair of horses can make just about anyone look good. Those who can win with a bad pair of horses are few and far between. I do agree that hard work and dedication makes a difference but from what I see at the fairgrounds Chris surrounds himself with a small army of people that do most of the work in getting the horses ready to compete.

Chris hasn't always had the best teams either & still won! Chris is from a family of great horseman...Chris's grandfather was one of the best there was and along the way Chris has came across many GREAT pullers and watched and learned. Yes, NOW Chris does have a great Team. But, all the money and great horses don't make him a great horseman...The knowledge he hold does...

how many horses has he made by himself not some prospect bought for him but something he purchased and developed all by his lonesome

um well what about marvin and hank? he started both of them. sounds like people are just jelous to me!!

Marvin and Hank were owned by Monti Carpenter. I wont take anything away from Chris as he is one of the best out thare, but Montie had a hand in how thay were trained as well as Chris. I would allso like to say that Marvin was an outstanding pulling horse and hank was pretty good to.

I thnk the browns started hank?

my point is that he has had green horses and not horses that have already been winning pulls. hes not just pullin the lines and automatically winning. there not only good horses because of there breeding and their cost but beacuse of their training and the hands they are in. ALso what about the horse pullers that take has beens/baulky horses and are competitive with them???? they need more credit too!!!

Stacky wrote--pullers that take has beens/baulky horses and are competitive with them???? they need more credit too!!!-- You got that right, thats all most of us can afford. It's been a while since Chris had to mess with a green horse but i know he can do it.

what about the roy horse that chris got out of the sale, i suppose hes not green either??

On Wednesday, June 17, 2009 at 06:19 PM hank wrote:
I thnk the browns started hank?

ok but did they ever pull him and win any pulls with him?

tom newman

Browns owned hank when he was six months old and they were pulling the quad with him when he was roughly a year old. I was told that they won several pulls with him. I am not cutting chris but i would not give him the credit for Hank.

do you really think a horse that has been gotten ready for that sale for two years is really green how nieve can one person be what do you consider to be a green horse if the amish boys that had roy , worked lugged and hitched him for two years do you honestly consider him green give me a break






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On Friday, June 26, 2009 at 03:05 PM david wrote:
do you really think a horse that has been gotten ready for that sale for two years is really green how nieve can one person be what do you consider to be a green horse if the amish boys that had roy , worked lugged and hitched him for two years do you honestly consider him green give me a break

I think David is right on this one.

On Tuesday, June 16, 2009 at 08:06 AM Stacky wrote:
um well what about marvin and hank? he started both of them. sounds like people are just jelous to me!!

and some are kissing his you know what

Jeff Dubois is the man to bet in Maine. His roan horse (Tony) is as stout as any ones. And i don't think he will get beat to many times. Look at the results he just crossed the load at a new york pull.

Jeff Dubois showed some very impressive power in Hemlock New York last week. Hard to come out and say he has the best heavy pair in the country but he sure deserves to be in the discussion.

I think Wendal Arms is still the best and another puller that has quit pulling that was good is Bill Arnett from Sullivan Indiana. Jane

Wendal Arms is one of the best for sure

I've watched Wendell for many years and he is one of the greats. The one name that I have not seen on this post is Oscar Ethington. I've watched him for many years and he takes ordinary horses and turns them into winners and he keeps them going for a long time.I'd say he is one of the best.